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A revolutionary observing opportunity — and more

As amateur astronomers, we spend most of our lives away from dark skies. Because of our jobs and more and more encroachment by light pollution, we rarely get to bask under the splendor of a spectacularly dark sky, let alone with a telescope at the ready. A new concept in dark-sky observing is about to change all that, however, and will make access to a dark sky easier and more affordable then ever.

Astronomy promoter and developer Gene Turner is unveiling Granite Gap as his latest mecca for amateur astronomy. Before this, Turner created the Arizona Sky Village and then Rancho Hidalgo, and the land at those ventures quickly sold out. This time, Turner is offering low-cost land for RV owners, for those who simply want an observatory under dark sky site they can operate robotically, or for those who want to purchase an inexpensive park model (like a small, nicely furnished cabin) with their scope beside it. The cost is amazingly low: A one-time fee of $2,500 will lease a one-third acre plot for 99 years, which includes a telescope pad, electricity, water, septic, and high-speed Internet. Cell phone service works nicely at the site. I spent the first full week of July in Tucson, Arizona, and then down at the site, which is located just south of I-10 and north of Animas, New Mexico. It’s about 2 1/2 hours from Tucson and roughly the same distance from El Paso, and southwest of Lordsburg, New Mexico, a famous old mining and railroad town.

Turner is offering what he says will be a “yearlong star party” at the site, which gives the location the possibility of becoming a unique and important gathering place for astronomy enthusiasts who have dreamed for years of the ultimate, inky black sky. As I stood under the summer Milky Way at Granite Gap, I was simply amazed. I’ve been there several times before and the sky is world-class dark, with a “three-dimensional” Milky Way etched with dark lanes and with bright naked-eye visibility of many Messier objects. The telescopic views are fantastic: We saw bright objects like the Lagoon, Trifid, and Omega nebulae as “photographic” views minus the color, and challenging objects like the famous galaxy-quasar pair NGC 4319 and Markarian 205 clearly and with direct vision. It is a stunning and amazingly transparent sky.

And Turner’s plans include far more than astronomy in the area. He is creating a large lake at the Granite Gap site for fishing and recreating. This autumn, he will commence a planned planetarium and mineral and meteorite museum. Horseback riding and birding are huge interests in the area and also part of the Granite Gap agenda. Archeology is a big part of the area as far more people lived in the region 1,500 years ago than do now; in walking the grounds 2 weeks ago, I found a Native American stone ax head measuring about 6 inches across that I gave to Turner. He will make it a part of the welcome center and history/cultural museum at the site.

In addition, nearby Native American sites include cave pictographs. Mining history and lore is a staple of the area, too, and Turner owns several defunct silver and copper mines that will be opened up for education. The region is steeped in western history, with Billy the Kid, the Clantons and Earps (of the nearby O.K. Corral drama), Cochise, Curly Bill Brocius, Johnny Ringo, and many others frequenting the area in the old days. As if that weren’t enough, plans are afoot for adding a golf course to the site down the line.

With the enthusiastic endorsement of world-famous planetary scientist Carolyn Shoemaker, Turner is also putting together Shoemaker Discovery Park at Granite Gap, which will feature big-scale model rocketry, a huge simulated impact crater to explore and learn about (along with meteorites that kids can dig up), and other features that will pay tribute to Carolyn’s husband, Gene Shoemaker (1928–1997), the father of impact geology and, along with Carolyn and Astronomy Contributing Editor David H. Levy, co-discoverer of Comet Shoemaker-Levy 9. The nearby Rancho Hidalgo site also holds Clyde Tombaugh’s 16-inch telescope. In 1930, he discovered Pluto; Pluto Park now holds his telescope — a great planetary instrument — and pays homage to Tombaugh.

For more on this remarkable development, see www.granitegap.com.

Stay tuned for more reports on this development, which promises to deliver what we all dream about — a supremely dark sky — in a reasonably easy way, for the first time ever.

Posted: 9/24/2010 10:27:34 AM by David J. Eicher | with 24 comments

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gina
where are you? i would like to visit if i new where tofind you
1/4/2012 11:29:17 PM
tinagleisner
Gene & Loy, Got home last night and I've already sent the link to this site off to my best friend (she's the CSA farmer I mentioned to you). Thanks so much for a wonderful stay at the Gap. Ted is busy thinking about his observatory and how to invite other members of his NH astronomy group to visit and share what you're creating. I enjoyed my time there with lots of fun people from around North America ... and with high speed internet, I can work there as easily as home (much better than my Denver connection). Tina
3/8/2011 9:42:10 PM
Ron &Bev Reed
We recently visited, and purchased our little piece of heaven on earth at Granite Gap, never happier. So many stars, you get lost in them. Beautiful! Gene, Loy and Genes Mon, Nona, are three of the nicest people we've met. Looking forward to our next visit.
12/18/2010 5:43:20 AM
Jim Pierce
Went out to visit in November to see what Grainte Gap was all about. Never felt more at home. Picked out my observatory site and going back in January to finalize plans. Inspite of the fact that the place was a beehive of activity Gene and Loy were gracious and accommodating. The skies are great. The only downside was I had to leave.
12/15/2010 5:35:53 PM
Kevin Koski
I just spent 4 weeks at Rancho Uildago and bought my little bit of heaven at Granite Gap, the skies are dark, almost pristine ,soon there will be rocket Feb.2011 along with RC planes and plenty of area to explore its a great place, and I'm glad I get to be part of this, if you love the night sky and the other sciences and like to fun this is for you come and jion us for the all fun, the future is now.
12/7/2010 2:03:58 PM
Rhino Car Hire
This sounds excellent value! I have recently moved out of the city, only 15 miles north but the night sky is unrecognizeable. Looking north into the night sky is jet black, look south and the light polution from the city is very evident.
11/29/2010 10:43:54 AM
Bob Schroeder
Pat, you're welcome. I think David answered your first question. I do not know the answers to your other questions concerning same site/different site, etc. Being there year-round is not in our plans so I didn't ask. When you call, ask to speak to Gene Turner, the developer. I found Gene to be friendly and helpful.
11/28/2010 4:39:42 PM
David Summers
Hello Pat
You can purchase a 99 year lease for $4500 that gives you access year around, this is what I did.
11/28/2010 3:36:32 PM
Pat Tarantino
Bob, Thanks for that info, I didn't get that impression from the website, but, if a person wanted to live there year round, would they beable to do that by paying 2X the dollar amount for the 99 year lease on whatever kind of site you had decidd upon? Or would it be 2 different leases so that 6 months would be at one site, and the next 6 months would be at a differnt one, so that even if you did live there it would never feel like home? Or could it be arranged that by paying for both 6 month time periods, you would get to be at one site year round? It kind of seemed to me that a person could live there, but not if they have to pull up stakes 4 times a year, What's your thinking on this? Thanks, Pat
11/26/2010 1:29:05 PM
Pat Tarantino
Bob, Thanks for that info, I didn't get that impression from the website, but, if a person wanted to live there year round, would they beable to do that by paying 2X the dollar amount for the 99 year lease on whatever kind of site you had decidd upon? Or would it be 2 different leases so that 6 months would be at one site, and the next 6 months would be at a differnt one, so that even if you did live there it would never feel like home? Or could it be arranged that by paying for both 6 month time periods, you would get to be at one site year round? It kind of seemed to me that a person could live there, but not if they have to pull up stakes 4 times a year, What's your thinking on this? Thanks, Pat
11/26/2010 1:28:59 PM
Bob Schroeder
One more thing that this web site does not make clear - the lease on the RV sites are also for 6 months out of the year - just like the cabins/park models. The six months can be any six months and do not have to be continuous.
11/22/2010 1:54:16 PM
Bob Schroeder
Pat, et al.,
As I understand it, the legal owner of Granite Gap is an educational organization called New Horizons West. I was having the same experience with e-mail, so I called them and things moved from there. Their web address is: www.newhorizonswest.org. Here is their contact information:
New Horizons West Inc.
30 Wasburn Rd
Animas, NM 88020
Phone: 575 548 0067

Hope that helps!

Bob S. Cincinnati, OH
11/22/2010 8:33:38 AM
Pat Tarantino
I would love to live out the last few years of my life here, and have tried to contact thru this website. For developers who promice to update this site every few days with all of the progress that is being made, it seems strange to me that no entry has been made for almost 4 months! I,m to old to give up my life in california for a pipe dream that doesn't even exist. Has anyone recieved an answer to their e-mail's? Does anybody know what is going on? Thanks for any info anyone can supply. Pat
11/21/2010 2:13:15 AM
Bob Schroeder
I have taken out a lease on a RV pad and had the same experience with the contact page. I started making phone calls and things moved pretty quickly. Regards, Bob, Cincinnati, OH
11/17/2010 1:12:48 PM
Fred W.
Interested in the details; lease language, covenants, available sites.

Left message on the "Contact Us" page, but no response.
11/17/2010 12:07:08 PM
Bill H.
Thank you for providing professional viewing conditions at such a low price for us amateurs. We are looking forward to many dark clear nights ahead. Please keep posting those development pictures as things progress guys. Can't wait for our first visit! Thank you!! Bill H., St. Louis MO
10/30/2010 8:40:56 PM
Terry Wilson
I am very interested in leasing a space. I would like to come down and look at the area in the next 2-3 months. May I have a link to the lease agreement and a map of the area?
10/28/2010 11:53:01 AM
Amelia Nelson
I have written to Granite Gap, but have not received any response. We are very interested in this sight. Please advise. Regards
Amelia Nelson
10/20/2010 8:47:35 AM
John Persichilli
Impressive concept and truly dark skies where you can see the Milky Way horizon to horizon. I recently visited for a couple of nights. I am rather picky about observing/imaging. Needless to say that other than large observatories on mountain top, it doesn't get any better seeing. So, I signed up for a 198 year lease.

I hope to meet new friends, see you there!


Website: I would like to see more recent pictures and development status along with a contact phone contact.
10/18/2010 7:51:23 AM
Carole
I would be interested in coming to visit next March to rent a space or accomodation for a week(s). Please send me more information.
10/12/2010 3:51:44 PM
Gardner G.
Guys, Granite Gap looks like it might be my future retirement location! I am curious however of future light pollution issues from other developments or growth of the local towns. Of course it's got to better than suburbia in S. NH (mag 4.5 on a good night).
Thanks for starting up something affordable for us regulars folks.
Gardner
10/9/2010 3:02:39 PM
jones
I would be interested in coming to visit next year to rent a space for a week or so .
10/9/2010 2:24:52 PM
Tamara
On October 2nd 2010 at around 9:30-10:00pm eastern time. Did you witness a star explode? I believe I saw it and can not find any info on the web.
10/3/2010 7:27:44 PM
Paul M.
Picked up the current Astronomy Mag....and suffice it to say..."we're intrigued". What your blog (and the website) doesn't indicate is whether or not there are any covenants on property use or other "hidden gem" clauses to the Leasing arrangement. Similarly, a plot map would be nice to see available for download from the site. Not withstanding these little legal/ administrative matters...my wife and I are truly intrigued by this development and will be seeking further information soon. Great article/blog thanks. Regards, Paul,WA
10/2/2010 7:27:02 PM
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